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== Part number 1.1 -- [[Benutzer:Dietrich-reviewer|Dietrich-reviewer]] ([[Benutzer Diskussion:Dietrich-reviewer|Diskussion]]) 17:04, 1. Mai 2020 (CEST) ==
== Part number 0 -- [[User:Pomelo|Pomelo]] ([[User talk:Pomelo|talk]]) 21:12, 3 September 2020 (CEST) ==


the distance from the holes to the beginning or end of frame 2 is missing
Some part names were changed and others were added. These names are of common use and have a good degree of specificity.


===Re: Part number 1.1 -- [[Benutzer:Bjoern|Bjoern]] ([[Benutzer Diskussion:Bjoern|Diskussion]]) 09:05, 3. Jun. 2020 (CEST)===
== -- [[User:Consu|Consu]] ([[User talk:Consu|talk]]) 11:36, 7 September 2020 (CEST) ==


:
HOLA TEST--[[User:Consu|Consu]] ([[User talk:Consu|talk]]) 11:36, 7 September 2020 (CEST)


== Part number 2.4 -- [[Benutzer:Dietrich-reviewer|Dietrich-reviewer]] ([[Benutzer Diskussion:Dietrich-reviewer|Diskussion]]) 17:19, 1. Mai 2020 (CEST) ==
== Part number 4.8 -- [[User:Consu|Consu]] ([[User talk:Consu|talk]]) 11:39, 7 September 2020 (CEST) ==


plan is missing
HELLO WORLD


== Part number 2.3 -- [[Benutzer:Dietrich-reviewer|Dietrich-reviewer]] ([[Benutzer Diskussion:Dietrich-reviewer|Diskussion]]) 17:25, 1. Mai 2020 (CEST) ==
===Re: Part number 4.8 -- [[User:Inddigital|Inddigital]] ([[User talk:Inddigital|talk]]) 18:02, 7 April 2021 (CEST)===


there is a wrong plan witout meausres
: Hi!


===Re: Part number 2.3 -- [[Benutzer:Djaeger|Djaeger]] ([[Benutzer Diskussion:Djaeger|Diskussion]]) 18:01, 1. Mai 2020 (CEST)===
== Part number 1 -- [[User:Pomelo|Pomelo]] ([[User talk:Pomelo|talk]]) 16:55, 7 September 2020 (CEST) ==


I changed the wrong plan for the right  plan
Item numbers have to be swapped to match the names of the individual drawings.


== Part number 3.1 -- [[Benutzer:Dietrich-reviewer|Dietrich-reviewer]] ([[Benutzer Diskussion:Dietrich-reviewer|Diskussion]]) 17:27, 1. Mai 2020 (CEST) ==
===Re: Part number 1 -- [[User:Inddigital|Inddigital]] ([[User talk:Inddigital|talk]]) 17:32, 7 April 2021 (CEST)===


this plan is showing the assemby of the whole Pulley Disc
: Done!
>>> sorry, I checked it again, tha plan is right


===Re: Part number 3.1 -- [[Benutzer:Djaeger|Djaeger]] ([[Benutzer Diskussion:Djaeger|Diskussion]]) 18:02, 1. Mai 2020 (CEST)===
== Part number 1.2 -- [[User:Pomelo|Pomelo]] ([[User talk:Pomelo|talk]]) 21:29, 11 September 2020 (CEST) ==


ok, perfect
Avoid specifying tolerances unless you are handling with elements that do need them. For example bearings, pins and axles do need them. There are different tolerances standards. I attached a PDF with general tolerances under DIN - ISO for future reference. The file has gone through ocr so one could select the text to translate.


== Part number 3.8 -- [[Benutzer:Dietrich-reviewer|Dietrich-reviewer]] ([[Benutzer Diskussion:Dietrich-reviewer|Diskussion]]) 17:37, 1. Mai 2020 (CEST) ==
To the extent of what is possible, avoid using decimals smaller than 0.5 unless strictly necessary. The average DIY/Maker does not have a ruler with partitions smaller than a 1 mm and generally uses a marker that is as thick. And the device itself does not need that level of accuracy for most part.


I think it is easier and cheaper to buy this part insteaad producing it, did you try to buy it?
===Re: Part number 1.2 -- [[User:Inddigital|Inddigital]] ([[User talk:Inddigital|talk]]) 17:54, 7 April 2021 (CEST)===


===Re: Part number 3.8 -- [[Benutzer:Djaeger|Djaeger]] ([[Benutzer Diskussion:Djaeger|Diskussion]]) 18:04, 1. Mai 2020 (CEST)===
: Excellent observation, in any case, the values in parentheses are equivalent in inches, not tolerances.


I tried but i did not find what I need
== Part number 1.1 -- [[User:Pomelo|Pomelo]] ([[User talk:Pomelo|talk]]) 22:00, 11 September 2020 (CEST) ==


====Re: Re: Part number 3.8 -- [[Benutzer:Dietrich-reviewer|Dietrich-reviewer]] ([[Benutzer Diskussion:Dietrich-reviewer|Diskussion]]) 18:05, 1. Mai 2020 (CEST)====
This is not a symmetric part which means that a reference edge is needed to refer all the measurements to. The reference edge can be placed on either end of the part.


I tried to find it, I think this can fit:
The 8.5mm holes look more like 6.5mm in the PDF with the screenshots. Less variation in the hardware components simplify the construction. A single zinc coated M6 bolt with a strength class of 5.8 (DIN EN ISO 898-1), which is the lowest class, can hold 800 kg of weight before it stretches and 1000 kg before it breaks.
https://www.ebay.de/itm/Keilriemen-scheibe-2-rillig-Riemenscheibe-Welle-20-00-mm/273642320244 - what do you think?


== Part number 4.9 -- [[Benutzer:Dietrich-reviewer|Dietrich-reviewer]] ([[Benutzer Diskussion:Dietrich-reviewer|Diskussion]]) 17:48, 1. Mai 2020 (CEST) ==
===Re: Part number 1.1 -- [[User:Inddigital|Inddigital]] ([[User talk:Inddigital|talk]]) 17:35, 7 April 2021 (CEST)===


plan is missing
: Thank you, good input for an improved version.


===Re: Part number 4.9 -- [[Benutzer:Djaeger|Djaeger]] ([[Benutzer Diskussion:Djaeger|Diskussion]]) 18:07, 1. Mai 2020 (CEST)===
== Part number 3 -- [[User:Fvillada|Fvillada]] ([[User talk:Fvillada|talk]]) 14:47, 14 September 2020 (CEST) ==


sorry but this is wrong, I will check too where to get ...
Can you please add the two dimension (width) in the pulley disc. Also will be great if you add the information or reference of the twos belts.


== Part number 5 -- [[Benutzer:Dietrich-reviewer|Dietrich-reviewer]] ([[Benutzer Diskussion:Dietrich-reviewer|Diskussion]]) 17:51, 1. Mai 2020 (CEST) ==
===Re: Part number 3 -- [[User:Inddigital|Inddigital]] ([[User talk:Inddigital|talk]]) 18:10, 7 April 2021 (CEST)===


I found this: https://de.rs-online.com/web/p/scharniere/2702758
: The pulley width is shown in item 3.8. Regarding the belts, this depends on the motor you are going to use, which I do not contemplate in this development, I will take it into account for an improved version.
[[Datei:Hinge.png|mini]]
is it ok?


===Re: Part number 5 -- [[Benutzer:Djaeger|Djaeger]] ([[Benutzer Diskussion:Djaeger|Diskussion]]) 18:08, 1. Mai 2020 (CEST)===
== Part number 2 -- [[User:Fvillada|Fvillada]] ([[User talk:Fvillada|talk]]) 12:20, 15 September 2020 (CEST) ==


sorry but this is wrong, I will check too where to get ...
The numbering from Lower Funnel 1 and Lower Funnel 2 is missing from the drawing


== Part number 1.1 -- [[Benutzer:Bjoern|Bjoern]] ([[Benutzer Diskussion:Bjoern|Diskussion]]) 09:04, 3. Jun. 2020 (CEST) ==
===Re: Part number 2 -- [[User:Inddigital|Inddigital]] ([[User talk:Inddigital|talk]]) 17:58, 7 April 2021 (CEST)===


Specification of the material is missing
: Done


===Re: Part number 1.1 -- [[Benutzer:Martin|Martin]] ([[Benutzer Diskussion:Martin|Diskussion]]) 18:58, 8. Jul. 2020 (CEST)===
== Part number 2.1 -- [[User:Fvillada|Fvillada]] ([[User talk:Fvillada|talk]]) 12:31, 15 September 2020 (CEST) ==


: TsDC COM-MAN says: mandatory if necessary for the technical design. From my perspective, its not very necessary here to define the material any finer than 'construction steel'
correct the handwriting form ANSI (L 1 x 1 x 1_8) to ANSI(L 1x1x1/8)


== Part number 1.2 -- [[Benutzer:Bjoern|Bjoern]] ([[Benutzer Diskussion:Bjoern|Diskussion]]) 09:08, 3. Jun. 2020 (CEST) ==
===Re: Part number 2.1 -- [[User:Inddigital|Inddigital]] ([[User talk:Inddigital|talk]]) 18:00, 7 April 2021 (CEST)===


symmetry lines and material is missing
: They are automatic names of the CAD system, where I cannot place certain characters.


== Part number 0 -- [[Benutzer:Bjoern|Bjoern]] ([[Benutzer Diskussion:Bjoern|Diskussion]]) 09:12, 3. Jun. 2020 (CEST) ==
== Part number 2.3 -- [[User:Fvillada|Fvillada]] ([[User talk:Fvillada|talk]]) 12:35, 15 September 2020 (CEST) ==


3D explosion view is not allowed for assembly drawing, it can be additional though
correct the handwriting form ANSI (L 1 x 1 x 1_8) to ANSI(L 1x1x1/8).
Also the code of product do not macht with the code in the part list


===Re: Part number 0 -- [[Benutzer:Lukas|Lukas]] ([[Benutzer Diskussion:Lukas|Diskussion]]) 12:22, 3. Jun. 2020 (CEST)===
===Re: Part number 2.3 -- [[User:Inddigital|Inddigital]] ([[User talk:Inddigital|talk]]) 18:00, 7 April 2021 (CEST)===
Where does it say so? Can you maybe add an example of what is needed.


====Re: Re: Part number 0 -- [[Benutzer:Bjoern|Bjoern]] ([[Benutzer Diskussion:Bjoern|Diskussion]]) 17:56, 11. Jun. 2020 (CEST)====
: They are automatic names of the CAD system, where I can't place certain characters in a quick way.


:: here are three of the common methods described: https://www.hs-anhalt.de/fileadmin/Dateien/FB6/personen/voigt_st/Lehrunterlagen/05_CAD/03_techZeich_Darstellungen.pdf
== Part number 2.4 -- [[User:Fvillada|Fvillada]] ([[User talk:Fvillada|talk]]) 12:36, 15 September 2020 (CEST) ==


most common in mechanical engineering is Projektionsmethode 1
correct the handwriting form ANSI (L 1 x 1 x 1_8) to ANSI(L 1x1x1/8). Also the code of product do not macht with the code in the part list


== Part number 0 -- [[Benutzer:Lukas|Lukas]] ([[Benutzer Diskussion:Lukas|Diskussion]]) 12:21, 3. Jun. 2020 (CEST) ==
===Re: Part number 2.4 -- [[User:Inddigital|Inddigital]] ([[User talk:Inddigital|talk]]) 18:01, 7 April 2021 (CEST)===


The screws are missing in the drawing.
: They are automatic names of the CAD system, where I can't place certain characters in a quick way.


== Part number 1.1 -- [[Benutzer:Lukas|Lukas]] ([[Benutzer Diskussion:Lukas|Diskussion]]) 12:28, 3. Jun. 2020 (CEST) ==
== Part number 0 -- [[User:Aquilesmorillo|Aquilesmorillo]] ([[User talk:Aquilesmorillo|talk]]) 20:19, 5 November 2020 (CET) ==


In the drawing of part number 1 this part has only two holes.
For manufacturing processes in applications that do not require greater precision, you can use measurements in millimeters, without decimals (applies to all items).
The symetric lines is missing if the part is symetric in both directions.


===Re: Part number 1.1 -- [[Benutzer:Martin|Martin]] ([[Benutzer Diskussion:Martin|Diskussion]]) 18:59, 8. Jul. 2020 (CEST)===
===Re: Part number 0 -- [[User:Inddigital|Inddigital]] ([[User talk:Inddigital|talk]]) 17:27, 7 April 2021 (CEST)===


: doesn't seem to be symmetric; from my perspective just the measurements for the hole positions are missing
: A decimal was used to facilitate some angled cuts and on certain parts with sliding adjustment


== Part number 1.3 -- [[Benutzer:Lukas|Lukas]] ([[Benutzer Diskussion:Lukas|Diskussion]]) 12:32, 3. Jun. 2020 (CEST) ==
== Part number 1.1 -- [[User:Aquilesmorillo|Aquilesmorillo]] ([[User talk:Aquilesmorillo|talk]]) 20:22, 5 November 2020 (CET) ==


Where is that part used?
You can size the hole centers from the ends of the piece


===Re: Part number 1.3 -- [[Benutzer:Bjoern|Bjoern]] ([[Benutzer Diskussion:Bjoern|Diskussion]]) 18:47, 11. Jun. 2020 (CEST)===
===Re: Part number 1.1 -- [[User:Inddigital|Inddigital]] ([[User talk:Inddigital|talk]]) 17:51, 7 April 2021 (CEST)===


: yes, it is not shown in the assembly drawing...
: Done!


== Part number 2.4 -- [[Benutzer:Lukas|Lukas]] ([[Benutzer Diskussion:Lukas|Diskussion]]) 12:34, 3. Jun. 2020 (CEST) ==
== Part number 4 -- [[User:Aquilesmorillo|Aquilesmorillo]] ([[User talk:Aquilesmorillo|talk]]) 21:11, 5 November 2020 (CET) ==


The symetric line in one direction is missing.
This piece and similar could be manufactured with bent sheet metal


== Part number 1 -- [[Benutzer:Lukas|Lukas]] ([[Benutzer Diskussion:Lukas|Diskussion]]) 12:40, 3. Jun. 2020 (CEST) ==
===Re: Part number 4 -- [[User:Inddigital|Inddigital]] ([[User talk:Inddigital|talk]]) 18:03, 7 April 2021 (CEST)===


This drawing does not show the tubes, 1.2 and 1.3.
: Ok, I will keep this in mind for an improved version.
And how are the parts linked? By welding?


== Part number 2 -- [[Benutzer:Bjoern|Bjoern]] ([[Benutzer Diskussion:Bjoern|Diskussion]]) 18:55, 11. Jun. 2020 (CEST) ==
== -- [[User:Aquilesmorillo|Aquilesmorillo]] ([[User talk:Aquilesmorillo|talk]]) 19:30, 6 November 2020 (CET) ==


3D explosion view is not good, better use Projektionsmethode 1


== Part number 3 -- [[Benutzer:Bjoern|Bjoern]] ([[Benutzer Diskussion:Bjoern|Diskussion]]) 18:59, 11. Jun. 2020 (CEST) ==
Hello, it would be interesting to develop the project to use a multipurpose electric motor of 110 V and 1/4 HP.


3D explosion view is not good, better use Projektionsmethode 1
===Re: -- [[User:Inddigital|Inddigital]] ([[User talk:Inddigital|talk]]) 17:22, 7 April 2021 (CEST)===


== Part number 3.1 -- [[Benutzer:Bjoern|Bjoern]] ([[Benutzer Diskussion:Bjoern|Diskussion]]) 19:02, 11. Jun. 2020 (CEST) ==
: The original video works with a diesel engine, but the idea of using an electric motor is very appropriate and could be applied in an improved version of the equipment.
 
the inner diameter is missing as well as the material
 
== Part number 3.2 -- [[Benutzer:Bjoern|Bjoern]] ([[Benutzer Diskussion:Bjoern|Diskussion]]) 19:04, 11. Jun. 2020 (CEST) ==
 
material?
 
== Part number 3.3 -- [[Benutzer:Bjoern|Bjoern]] ([[Benutzer Diskussion:Bjoern|Diskussion]]) 19:05, 11. Jun. 2020 (CEST) ==
 
Material?
 
== Part number 3.3 -- [[Benutzer:Bjoern|Bjoern]] ([[Benutzer Diskussion:Bjoern|Diskussion]]) 19:12, 11. Jun. 2020 (CEST) ==
 
tolerances for the diameter like 11h7 would be usefull, to ensure that it fits tight on the disk (No. 2)
 
== Part number 3.2 -- [[Benutzer:Bjoern|Bjoern]] ([[Benutzer Diskussion:Bjoern|Diskussion]]) 19:16, 11. Jun. 2020 (CEST) ==
 
tolerances for the diameter like 11K7 would be usefull, to ensure that it fits tight on (No. 3)
 
== Part number 3 -- [[Benutzer:Bjoern|Bjoern]] ([[Benutzer Diskussion:Bjoern|Diskussion]]) 19:19, 11. Jun. 2020 (CEST) ==
 
the shaft (3.7) is not shown in the drawing
 
== Part number 3 -- [[Benutzer:Bjoern|Bjoern]] ([[Benutzer Diskussion:Bjoern|Diskussion]]) 19:20, 11. Jun. 2020 (CEST) ==
 
the destribution of forces between 1 and 2 is not clear
 
== Part number 4 -- [[Benutzer:Bjoern|Bjoern]] ([[Benutzer Diskussion:Bjoern|Diskussion]]) 19:27, 11. Jun. 2020 (CEST) ==
 
it is not clear e.g. how 5 is connected to 4 -> projektionsmethode 1 and add measures
 
==  -- [[Benutzer:Bjoern|Bjoern]] ([[Benutzer Diskussion:Bjoern|Diskussion]]) 19:30, 11. Jun. 2020 (CEST) ==
 
Materials of all parts are missing
 
== Part number 4.4 -- [[Benutzer:Bjoern|Bjoern]] ([[Benutzer Diskussion:Bjoern|Diskussion]]) 19:31, 11. Jun. 2020 (CEST) ==
 
symmetry line

Latest revision as of 18:10, 7 April 2021

Part number 0 -- Pomelo (talk) 21:12, 3 September 2020 (CEST)

Some part names were changed and others were added. These names are of common use and have a good degree of specificity.

-- Consu (talk) 11:36, 7 September 2020 (CEST)

HOLA TEST--Consu (talk) 11:36, 7 September 2020 (CEST)

Part number 4.8 -- Consu (talk) 11:39, 7 September 2020 (CEST)

HELLO WORLD

Re: Part number 4.8 -- Inddigital (talk) 18:02, 7 April 2021 (CEST)

Hi!

Part number 1 -- Pomelo (talk) 16:55, 7 September 2020 (CEST)

Item numbers have to be swapped to match the names of the individual drawings.

Re: Part number 1 -- Inddigital (talk) 17:32, 7 April 2021 (CEST)

Done!

Part number 1.2 -- Pomelo (talk) 21:29, 11 September 2020 (CEST)

Avoid specifying tolerances unless you are handling with elements that do need them. For example bearings, pins and axles do need them. There are different tolerances standards. I attached a PDF with general tolerances under DIN - ISO for future reference. The file has gone through ocr so one could select the text to translate.

To the extent of what is possible, avoid using decimals smaller than 0.5 unless strictly necessary. The average DIY/Maker does not have a ruler with partitions smaller than a 1 mm and generally uses a marker that is as thick. And the device itself does not need that level of accuracy for most part.

Re: Part number 1.2 -- Inddigital (talk) 17:54, 7 April 2021 (CEST)

Excellent observation, in any case, the values in parentheses are equivalent in inches, not tolerances.

Part number 1.1 -- Pomelo (talk) 22:00, 11 September 2020 (CEST)

This is not a symmetric part which means that a reference edge is needed to refer all the measurements to. The reference edge can be placed on either end of the part.

The 8.5mm holes look more like 6.5mm in the PDF with the screenshots. Less variation in the hardware components simplify the construction. A single zinc coated M6 bolt with a strength class of 5.8 (DIN EN ISO 898-1), which is the lowest class, can hold 800 kg of weight before it stretches and 1000 kg before it breaks.

Re: Part number 1.1 -- Inddigital (talk) 17:35, 7 April 2021 (CEST)

Thank you, good input for an improved version.

Part number 3 -- Fvillada (talk) 14:47, 14 September 2020 (CEST)

Can you please add the two dimension (width) in the pulley disc. Also will be great if you add the information or reference of the twos belts.

Re: Part number 3 -- Inddigital (talk) 18:10, 7 April 2021 (CEST)

The pulley width is shown in item 3.8. Regarding the belts, this depends on the motor you are going to use, which I do not contemplate in this development, I will take it into account for an improved version.

Part number 2 -- Fvillada (talk) 12:20, 15 September 2020 (CEST)

The numbering from Lower Funnel 1 and Lower Funnel 2 is missing from the drawing

Re: Part number 2 -- Inddigital (talk) 17:58, 7 April 2021 (CEST)

Done

Part number 2.1 -- Fvillada (talk) 12:31, 15 September 2020 (CEST)

correct the handwriting form ANSI (L 1 x 1 x 1_8) to ANSI(L 1x1x1/8)

Re: Part number 2.1 -- Inddigital (talk) 18:00, 7 April 2021 (CEST)

They are automatic names of the CAD system, where I cannot place certain characters.

Part number 2.3 -- Fvillada (talk) 12:35, 15 September 2020 (CEST)

correct the handwriting form ANSI (L 1 x 1 x 1_8) to ANSI(L 1x1x1/8). Also the code of product do not macht with the code in the part list

Re: Part number 2.3 -- Inddigital (talk) 18:00, 7 April 2021 (CEST)

They are automatic names of the CAD system, where I can't place certain characters in a quick way.

Part number 2.4 -- Fvillada (talk) 12:36, 15 September 2020 (CEST)

correct the handwriting form ANSI (L 1 x 1 x 1_8) to ANSI(L 1x1x1/8). Also the code of product do not macht with the code in the part list

Re: Part number 2.4 -- Inddigital (talk) 18:01, 7 April 2021 (CEST)

They are automatic names of the CAD system, where I can't place certain characters in a quick way.

Part number 0 -- Aquilesmorillo (talk) 20:19, 5 November 2020 (CET)

For manufacturing processes in applications that do not require greater precision, you can use measurements in millimeters, without decimals (applies to all items).

Re: Part number 0 -- Inddigital (talk) 17:27, 7 April 2021 (CEST)

A decimal was used to facilitate some angled cuts and on certain parts with sliding adjustment

Part number 1.1 -- Aquilesmorillo (talk) 20:22, 5 November 2020 (CET)

You can size the hole centers from the ends of the piece

Re: Part number 1.1 -- Inddigital (talk) 17:51, 7 April 2021 (CEST)

Done!

Part number 4 -- Aquilesmorillo (talk) 21:11, 5 November 2020 (CET)

This piece and similar could be manufactured with bent sheet metal

Re: Part number 4 -- Inddigital (talk) 18:03, 7 April 2021 (CEST)

Ok, I will keep this in mind for an improved version.

-- Aquilesmorillo (talk) 19:30, 6 November 2020 (CET)

Hello, it would be interesting to develop the project to use a multipurpose electric motor of 110 V and 1/4 HP.

Re: -- Inddigital (talk) 17:22, 7 April 2021 (CEST)

The original video works with a diesel engine, but the idea of using an electric motor is very appropriate and could be applied in an improved version of the equipment.
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