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== Part number 1.1.1 -- [[User:Hanffaser|Hanffaser]] ([[User talk:Hanffaser|talk]]) 08:21, 30 June 2023 (CEST) == | == Part number 1.1.1 -- [[User:Hanffaser|Hanffaser]] ([[User talk:Hanffaser|talk]]) 08:21, 30 June 2023 (CEST) == | ||
'''Erste Abmaßprüfung'''<br> | |||
Teil 1.1.1 und 1.1.2 sind fast identisch, da es nur die Breite und der Biegungswinkel sich ändert. Das heißt, dass beim CAD-Konstruktion darf man beide Platten aufeinander legen, um die position aller Löcher und Zuchnitte zu überprüfen. | |||
[[File:Part 1.1.1 V0.01 Measuremets.jpg|thumb|First observations.]] | [[File:Part 1.1.1 V0.01 Measuremets.jpg|thumb|First observations.]] | ||
== Part number 1.1.2 -- [[User:Hanffaser|Hanffaser]] ([[User talk:Hanffaser|talk]]) 10:10, 30 June 2023 (CEST) == | == Part number 1.1.2 -- [[User:Hanffaser|Hanffaser]] ([[User talk:Hanffaser|talk]]) 10:10, 30 June 2023 (CEST) == |
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- Anschließend werden Informationen über den Hydraulikkolben sowie andere verwandte Teile und Bereiche benötigt.
Part number 1 -- Inddigital (talk) 00:00, 21 June 2023 (CET)
Entwurf aus den verfügbaren Informationen, zur Überprüfung, Korrektur und Klarstellung (Weitere Details finden Sie im Abschnitt PDF-Zeichnungen)
Part number 1.1 -- Inddigital (talk) 02:03, 15 June 2023 (CET)
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- Entwurf aus den verfügbaren Informationen, zur Überprüfung, Korrektur und Klarstellung (Weitere Details finden Sie im Abschnitt PDF-Zeichnungen)
- Für diese Montage wurden die Bilder analysiert, wobei die Eisenplatten entsprechend den beobachteten Schweißlinien und Biegungen getrennt wurden:
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In diesem Satz wurden die Artikulationsachsen entsprechend den anderen beobachteten Achsen hinzugefügt.
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- Dieses Stück scheint weniger groß zu sein, als im Text angegeben:
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Part number 1.1 -- Hanffaser (talk) 15:13, 29 June 2023 (CEST)
Subassembly 1.1
Offset
Parts 1.1.7 (roof and floor) are welded off-center to the wall of part 1.1.9 (cylinder). This offset reduces the distance that separate both drums by a total (considering both sides) of around about 50mm.
Here it is worth asking the following question:
Is this a design characteristic or is it a correction carried out during the build after somebody considered that the drums were too far apart?
Maybe the angle between the arm that joins part 1.1.9 (cylinder) and parts 1.1.1 and 1.1.2 (plates) worked out to be too large and the easiest way out was to offset 1.1.9
This offset correction might have needed a reduction in length of 1.1.7 which led to the drums being closer to plates 1.1.1 and 1.1.2, resulting in the drums making contact with these parts and in the necessity of grinding/cutting out the corners where all these components meet.
Drop Angle
The angle formed between the front wall of the column (plate 1.1.4) and arm (plates 1.1.7 - roof and floor) is lager than 90 degrees. This creates a drop angle towards the front of the machine with a slope gradient of around about 5%. Viewed from either side the arm should look like a parallelogram which keeps the cylinder 1.1.9 in the center of the drum parallel to plate 1.1.4 (front of the column)
It is worth mentioning that the box (arm) formed by plates 1.1.7 and 1.1.8 is horizontally and vertically tapered towards the center of the drum (forward), which means that the angle measured between column and arm is the sum of two angles, namely the drop and the taper angles.
Part number 1 -- Hanffaser (talk) 15:22, 29 June 2023 (CEST)
Zwei Punkte sind bei dieser Baugruppe hervorzuheben, die für künftige Konstruktionen von Bedeutung sind.
- Die Teile 1.1.1 und 1.1.2 kollidieren mit der sich drehenden Trommel. Im Moment gibt es keine Hinweise darauf, warum dies der Fall sein könnte. Mögliche Ursachen könnten z. B. in folgenden Bereichen liegen:
- -Design: Die Arme sind wahrscheinlich zu kurz und müssen um etwa 20 bis 30 mm verlängert werden, um den gewünschten Abstand zwischen Trommel und Rahmenplatten zu erreichen.
- -Design/Bedienung: Die Flexibilität einiger der verwendeten Materialien wurde unterschätzt und die Belastung der Maschine führte dazu, dass sich Teile verbiegen und berühren.
- -Konstruktion: Bei der Konstruktion der Maschine wurde ein Fehler gemacht, der dazu führte, dass die Trommeln näher als berechnet an den Hauptrahmenplatten lagen. Dies ist jedoch unwahrscheinlich, da beide verfügbaren Maschinen das gleiche Problem bei den betrachteten Teilen aufweisen.
- Das Teil 1.1.1 kollidiert mit dem Verbindungsarm der Unterbaugruppe 1.2, wenn die Trommeln angehoben werden. Dies scheint die Funktion oder den Betrieb der Maschine nicht beeinträchtigt zu haben, aber es hat mit Sicherheit zu einer gewissen Belastung der Struktur geführt, bevor sich die Teile unter den Betätigungskräften verformten. Es sollten einige Änderungen an der Konstruktion vorgenommen werden, damit dies nicht mehr vorkommt.
-- Hanffaser (talk) 22:22, 29 June 2023 (CEST)
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Part number 1.1.1 -- Hanffaser (talk) 08:21, 30 June 2023 (CEST)
Erste Abmaßprüfung
Teil 1.1.1 und 1.1.2 sind fast identisch, da es nur die Breite und der Biegungswinkel sich ändert. Das heißt, dass beim CAD-Konstruktion darf man beide Platten aufeinander legen, um die position aller Löcher und Zuchnitte zu überprüfen.
Part number 1.1.2 -- Hanffaser (talk) 10:10, 30 June 2023 (CEST)
Erste Abmaßprüfung
Teil 1.1.1 und 1.1.2 sind fast identisch, da es nur die Breite und der Biegungswinkel sich ändert. Das heißt, dass beim CAD-Konstruktion darf man beide Platten aufeinander legen, um die position aller Löcher und Zuchnitte zu überprüfen.
Part number 1.1.3 -- Hanffaser (talk) 10:19, 30 June 2023 (CEST)
Erste Abmaßprüfung
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Erste Abmaßprüfung